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Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga

Demon-eating RPG where planning your mantra grid and exploiting weaknesses is the whole battle.

Here's the argument for where this game sits - disagree freely.
Match your experience?
EXECUTION1 /10READS0 /10VARIANCE3 /10OPTIMIZATION9 /10

the cheat-test profile

The four axes - the argument

Each axis is rated on its own - how far one cheat would trivialize the game here. They don't trade off; low on all four means the game is an experience, not a contest.

  1. Execution

    cheat: Aimbot - perfect inputs

    1/10

    Turn-based menus; trivial physically.

  2. Reads

    cheat: Out-predict an adaptive opponent

    0/10

    Bosses follow learnable fixed routines.

  3. Variance

    cheat: See what's hidden / map the RNG

    3/10

    Some ailment and crit RNG, mostly deterministic.

  4. Optimization

    cheat: A perfect solver / coach

    9/10

    Mantra grid routing and Press Turn exploitation are fully solvable.

How to read this

Each axis is named by the cheat that would break the game along it. Execution is the hands. Reads is out-thinking an adaptive opponent. Variance is hidden information & RNG. Optimization is the solvable systems layer. A game's region is the top one or two axes.

These four aren't one rating split four ways - they're independent 0-10 questions. A 9 on one axis takes nothing from the others, and a game low on all four isn't missing data: it's telling you there's no skill here to cheat.

The basis is how the majority actually plays this game - not a niche mode or a personal run. For a game with very different modes (a story campaign versus ranked multiplayer), that's the version most people mean.

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Game details

Released
2004
Developer
Atlus
Franchise
Megami Tensei
Platforms
PS3, PS2
Modes
Single player
IGDB critics
77/100
IGDB users
87/100
Role-playing (RPG)Science fiction